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Akiha's influence on CC; You play with it every day
Topic Started: Sep 18 2011, 10:57 PM (561 Views)
Sibre2001
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tankshock
Sep 20 2011, 09:09 PM
although I feel as if you are being stubborn in refusing to admit any wrong doing or mishandling of the way this was carried out.
Honestly, I think admitting to mishandling could rest pretty firmly on your shoulders too Tankshock. Whether or not this thread was unreasonable or not is a matter of opinion, but what is certainly shown is that you specifically handled your displeasure about the matter is a very immature way. Up until you started spewing grade school insults the entire episode was being handled reasonably maturely. Akiha never shot insults at Charles. Even the people who agreed with you that this thread was out of line handled themselves like adults and voiced their displeasure in mutually respectful tones.

At worst what we had in the beginning was someone being egotistical but polite. Now, coming almost exclusively from you, we have people completely misrepresenting facts, people being called childish, being told they are throwing temper tantrums, being told they are having hissy fits, being told they are not acting like adults, and topping it off with some armchair psychology and stating that someone likely need therapy. Maybe the reason Akiha brought up your "old" persona (besides the fact this is a OOC thread) is because you certainly were not acting like an intellectual, but rather a mindless bruiser who says and does what he wants.

I think if anyone needs to do some apologizing around here you need to look a lot closer to home, Tankshock. If your words in this thread is what you consider an intellectual person would say, I think your persona change was a waste of time.
Edited by Sibre2001, Sep 21 2011, 10:06 AM.
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It seems my displeasure for repetition along with my desire for thoroughness has been taken the wrong way. I should have simply used immature for the entirety of the post, but since I am currently in the mindset of writing for college, where I am forced to use synonyms for everything and never repeat words more than two or three times in an entire paper, I used a great deal of other words to describe the same thing. I refuse to apologize for the way I responded to Akiha, but I will offer an apology for the sheer size of the response and the over the top nature.

When I said these words, this is what I was thinking:
Childish = Synonym of immature; used in the sense to describe an immature way of handling being left off the list.
Temper tantrum = used to describe how he not only complained in the thread itself but decided to generate another one just to show charles how wrong he was about akiha not being on the list. see immature.
Not acting like an adult: This thread was very poorly carried out and was not written in a well thought out manner. see immature.
Hissy Fit: Synonym of temper tantrum; used in the same manner as temper tantrum.
Need therapy bit: This was kind of a tongue-in-cheek insult that had no place in my argument. Looking back on it I would not have included it. see immature.

The main reason I went so far stemmed from the way Akiha responded to my light hearted trolling. If he had simply taken the hint and realized the thread was a bit much, it would have died that night. But when his response was to suggest that I not read the thread, I got a bit irked.

P.S. Nice way of spinning the story but none of the insults were grade school insults. I did not misrepresent facts. I mistakenly mixed up the times for one thing that I already gave a different response to get its point across. If a mindless bruiser talks like this I am out of the loop. Perhaps you need to explore the differences between heated discussion and whatever it is you think I was doing?
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New Tank sucks, we want Tankshock back.

I'll launch a campaign in the morning for just such a thing when I make my thank you post for being elected in LA.
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Your justification is laughable Tankshock. I don't believe I stated anywhere that your insults were unrelated to each other. What I was stating is that a so called intellectual would not have needed to resort to insults to get his/her point across. You did not need to resort to name calling to state the same thing you did. The reason you did so was to be insulting and inflammatory.

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Need therapy bit: This was kind of a tongue-in-cheek insult that had no place in my argument. Looking back on it I would not have included it. see immature.
It is likely that you were just copy/pasting "see mature" behind every point to try and prove why you needed to use all these various insults, but can you clarify to me how stating that someone needs therapy has anything to do with anyone's maturity but your own?

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P.S. Nice way of spinning the story but none of the insults were grade school insults. I did not misrepresent facts. I mistakenly mixed up the times for one thing that I already gave a different response to get its point across. If a mindless bruiser talks like this I am out of the loop. Perhaps you need to explore the differences between heated discussion and whatever it is you think I was doing?
Actually you misrepresented the facts again in this post.

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Temper tantrum = used to describe how he not only complained in the thread itself but decided to generate another one just to show charles how wrong he was about akiha not being on the list. see immature.
Please show me where you got the idea that this thread was just to show Charles how wrong he was. In the first paragraph of this thread that is disproved.

As for my "mindless bruiser" line, if you were to give an honest comparison, would your actions in this thread relate more to the old Tankshock or the new "Intellectual" Tankshock?

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I'd settle for getting the Tankshock we were promised.
Edited by Sibre2001, Sep 21 2011, 11:38 AM.
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Oh I see now. The problem you had was the insults being used at all. You must have forgot what provoked this persona change in the first place. I am all about giving people back what they give to others. Akiha has used insults to prove her points for months. Examples of targets in the past are Ludwig, Drake, Murph, Ana, and others (I am in class and couldn't be bothered to search before July) who were generally berated as incompetent in one form or another. If you take issue with the way I am using insults in the discussion, take it up with Akiha.

BTW, If someone has anger issues, it is worth the backlash to let them know they need help. Obviously it is a stretch to say that is the case here, but don't tell me that its automatically an immature thing to say.

It is not disproved in the first paragraph. The interpretation of his thought process behind this thread is not in black in white. It can't be proved or disproved one way or the other.

Sure the insults point toward the Tankshock of old but the explanation behind them and the fact they are based on actual reasons rather than just strewn around is far beyond the capacity of the previous persona.

You are getting exactly what I promised. I said I would give people what they give others. That is exactly what I am doing.
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Sep 21 2011, 02:59 PM
Oh I see now. The problem you had was the insults being used at all. You must have forgot what provoked this persona change in the first place. I am all about giving people back what they give to others. Akiha has used insults to prove her points for months. Examples of targets in the past are Ludwig, Drake, Murph, Ana, and others (I am in class and couldn't be bothered to search before July) who were generally berated as incompetent in one form or another. If you take issue with the way I am using insults in the discussion, take it up with Akiha.
Now this is my fault. When you said that you were planning on being more of an intellectual, I took that literally. I did not realize that your plan was to take people's bad habits and expand on them to show the person why it is bad practice. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

tankshock
Sep 21 2011, 02:59 PM
BTW, If someone has anger issues, it is worth the backlash to let them know they need help. Obviously it is a stretch to say that is the case here, but don't tell me that its automatically an immature thing to say.
I think a stretch is putting it lightly. I can just as easily say that you need to see get therapy because you have issues with being proved wrong. I have as much prove of that as you have of Akiha having "anger issues". But honestly I seriously doubt that you said that because you believed Akiha needed therapy. You said it to be insulting and derogatory.

tankshock
Sep 21 2011, 02:59 PM
It is not disproved in the first paragraph. The interpretation of his thought process behind this thread is not in black in white. It can't be proved or disproved one way or the other.
EXACTLY. So your interpretation that you listed as a stone cold fact could just as easily be as wrong as what I said and what Akiha said. I could say that the reason you are finding any reason possible to be insulting to Akiha is because you have harbored a grudge against living in his shadow for so long until he decided to quit. That can't be disproved either.

tankshock
Sep 21 2011, 02:59 PM
Sure the insults point toward the Tankshock of old but the explanation behind them and the fact they are based on actual reasons rather than just strewn around is far beyond the capacity of the previous persona.

You are getting exactly what I promised. I said I would give people what they give others. That is exactly what I am doing.
I listed this in the first paragraph. I do have a problem with taking what people said literally. You meant you would merely be more intellectual then the Tankshock of the past. I took it to mean you would be on the level that someone would consider you being an intellectual. I apologize again.

The question I have is what is your honest review of what is going on. You are saying that you are only being insulting and derogatory not because it is the right thing to do in this conversation, but because Akiha did it before and you are throwing it in his face. Do you actually believe what you are doing is wrong but it has that justification?

Also, you brought up that it is wrong for someone to comment on a person's past persona. So if Akiha made a new persona that was exactly the same except the new one wouldn't insult people anymore would you think it was wrong for you to lob insults at him for his "past persona"?
Edited by Sibre2001, Sep 21 2011, 03:27 PM.
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Wow....This poll has created quite a ruckus...

Again, my apoligies. I'm cool, Akiha, we're all good here. I think there is no need to continue on the debate.

-Cheers!
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Sep 21 2011, 03:39 PM
Wow....This poll has created quite a ruckus...
God knows we needed a bit of ruckus. The forum has been dead lately. I congratulate you good sir on giving it a burst of life again :wink:
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Sep 21 2011, 03:42 PM
Charles Marx
Sep 21 2011, 03:39 PM
Wow....This poll has created quite a ruckus...
God knows we needed a bit of ruckus. The forum has been dead lately. I congratulate you good sir on giving it a burst of life again :wink:
I agree with you on that.

Thank you, I'm pleased to be of some sort of assistance. :tongue:
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Now this is my fault. When you said that you were planning on being more of an intellectual, I took that literally. I did not realize that your plan was to take people's bad habits and expand on them to show the person why it is bad practice. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

Well I apologize for the misunderstanding but that honestly is a major part of this persona. Bear in mind I will refrain from harping on the same person over and over again once the point has been made (this is a new adjustment because I can see your point), but I intend to utilize people's own mean spirited arguments against them whenever fitting.

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I think a stretch is putting it lightly. I can just as easily say that you need to see get therapy because you have issues with being proved wrong. I have as much prove of that as you have of Akiha having "anger issues". But honestly I seriously doubt that you said that because you believed Akiha needed therapy. You said it to be insulting and derogatory.
That's exactly what it was meant as. I used stretch as a turn of phrase. If you don't like it just imagine i said 'this is not the case here'. I like to be fancy. :O

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EXACTLY. So your interpretation that you listed as a stone cold fact could just as easily be as wrong as what I said and what Akiha said. I could say that the reason you are finding any reason possible to be insulting to Akiha is because you have harbored a grudge against living in his shadow for so long until he decided to quit. That can't be disproved either.
Where did I say it was fact? I was under the impression this entire conversation was all a difference of opinion :wink:

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I listed this in the first paragraph. I do have a problem with taking what people said literally. You meant you would merely be more intellectual then the Tankshock of the past. I took it to mean you would be on the level that someone would consider you being an intellectual. I apologize again.
Really nothing to respond to here. Gesundheit?

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The question I have is what is your honest review of what is going on. You are saying that you are only being insulting and derogatory not because it is the right thing to do in this conversation, but because Akiha did it before and you are throwing it in his face. Do you actually believe what you are doing is wrong but it has that justification?
Yes and no. Using insults to prove a point is a tactic that works. However it is a very pathetic way to win arguments.

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Also, you brought up that it is wrong for someone to comment on a person's past persona. So if Akiha made a new persona that was exactly the same except the new one wouldn't insult people anymore would you think it was wrong for you to lob insults at him for his "past persona"?
Yes it would be wrong. Everyone is entitled to the chance to change. Now, if the change proved to be false and the insults continued he would not be afforded a third chance.
Edited by tankshock, Sep 21 2011, 03:52 PM.
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Sep 21 2011, 03:51 PM
However it is a very pathetic way to win arguments.
Looks like we are done here.
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lol if you are referring to the use of pathetic and the irony that entails, I couldn't think of a better word >_>.


EDIT: also, the difference here is that my posts could stand up on their own if you took out all the insults. I didn't just blindly trash him.
Edited by tankshock, Sep 21 2011, 04:24 PM.
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Sep 21 2011, 03:39 PM
Wow....This poll has created quite a ruckus...

Again, my apoligies. I'm cool, Akiha, we're all good here. I think there is no need to continue on the debate.

-Cheers!
No apology needed good sir, I'm cool Charles. I admit to being a bit miffed before but you have done nothing wrong.

Look on the bright side: We - a newbie who didn't do his research and a deranged psycho apparently in need of therapy gave everybody something to talk about. And September has been pretty boring and abysmal imho. :joke:
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Sep 21 2011, 04:28 PM
No apology needed good sir, I'm cool Charles. I admit to being a bit miffed before but you have done nothing wrong.

Look on the bright side: We - a newbie who didn't do his research and an evil murderous demi-god gave everybody something to talk about. And September has been pretty boring and abysmal imho. :joke:
fixed it for ya.
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Demigod?

Somebody's been reading too much Rick Riordan.
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